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Mass. cops deal with large overflow of evidence
February 23, 2010www.policeone.com, Telegram & Gazette
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Southbridge, MA
Some items in overflowing evidence rooms go back as far as 15 years
SOUTHBRIDGE, Mass. — A small hot tub and a set of brass knuckle with three knives sticking out of it are among unusual items that have accumulated in the Southbridge Police Department.
They are examples of a common housekeeping issue for police departments — the need for more room for evidence and recovered items.
Authorities in Westboro are going through inventory, police Lt. Robert T. Fryer said. They have guns and old televisions, computers and different things that are of no particular interest, he said.
“We’re going through our old cases — things that are 10, 12, 15 years old — and making sure that the cases are not active and disposing of what we can to make more room,” Lt. Fryer said.
Westboro has a small room for valuables such as guns and drugs. Other items are kept in cold storage in a 12– by 25-foot space off the garage.
Bicycles and other items are in yet another area — a storage container at the Westboro Department of Public Works. Many bikes were auctioned, the lieutenant said.
Sutton Police Chief Dennis J. Towle said his staff met last week about the same problem.
Chief Towle said his predecessor years ago bought a storage container for items. That’s now full.
Sutton police have also partitioned part of their garage for evidence.
“We have an extensive amount of jewelry from a specific case that we’re waiting to get a disposition on,” Chief Towle said. “At that point we’ll try to find who the owners are. It’s unlikely we ever will find them.”
The chief classified some of the jewelry as “real, real unique stuff.” A pocket watch has an estimated value of $3,000 to $5,000.
“Somebody has to be missing it, whether or not (the owner is) still with us,” Chief Towle said.
The Auburn Police Department’s 30-square-foot evidence room probably has about 500 items and is nearly out of space, Chief Andrew J. Sluckis said. The items are “run of the mill” guns and drug evidence, such as things used to cultivate marijuana.
“A lot of it has to do with either open cases that we’re waiting to come up for trial, or cases where we have to hold on to the evidence because the person is in default and has never appeared in court,” he said.
In Southbridge, unidentifiable headstones are among other unusual items, Chief Daniel R. Charette said.
Southbridge police have a plastic tub containing about 30 or 40 swords. “We must have 300 or 400 firearms,” he said.
The department has checked with the town’s lawyer to see what it can do with this property, the chief said.
“It would seem pretty simple on the surface,” Chief Charette said. “You have the recovered property from a breaking and entering. You know whose it is, you give it back to them.”
But the problem is that sometimes the court case has been disposed of and the insurance company has paid for the loss. The insurer usually doesn’t want the item back so it sits with police, Chief Charette said.
An auction is a possibility, but when items are declared surplus the town gets to keep the portion of money from the auction.
“My hope with that is the money stays within the police department,” he said with a laugh.
Southbridge police Sgt. Jose A. Dingui recently met with Northboro-based Village Vault, a firearms storage facility that in some cases will give the police 60 percent of the proceeds from a gun sale.
For the most part Village Vault stores guns that were taken by police in restraining-orders cases, license revocations or were abandoned or donated in instances when a gun-owner died and the family didn’t want the weapon.
About five years ago, an Internet company called propertyroom.com emerged, and it has been helpful for departments, said retired Shrewsbury Police Chief A. Wayne Sampson, who is the executive director of the Massachusetts Chiefs of Police Association.
The company logs the items, takes pictures and posts them on the Internet.
Chief Sampson said this is a better program because the items are on the Internet permanently, and as materials are sold the company sends a check to a community.
State law allows “property which has been stolen, lost, abandoned or taken from a person under arrest” to be disposed of.
Just to be thorough, the chief’s association filed legislation to allow auctioning property on the Internet, Chief Sampson said. The bill passed in April.
In the old days, an officer would spend weeks or months going through property, trying to track down owners through letters, Chief Sampson said.
The officer would have to make sure the case was cleared before the department hired an auctioneer, which requires a newspaper advertisement.
“We would have to bring in extra help on the day of the auction to be there and process it,” Chief Sampson said.
In most cases, after paying for the public auction, the department probably would lose money to get rid of the property, he said.
However, some items still find their way home the old-fashioned way.
Seven days ago in West Brookfield, a West Springfield woman lost a diamond ring. She told a reporter it was a family heirloom that fell out of her purse as she got out of her car for a Valentine’s Day dinner with her husband at Salem Cross Inn.
Jean Smith of Wilbraham found it and turned it over to staff at the inn, who in turn gave the ring to police.
By Wednesday it was in the rightful owner’s hands.
Sgt. Charles H. Laperle, who handled the case, said the owner was lucky to have honest people turn in the ring.
West Brookfield police certainly don’t need any more unclaimed items, which are kept in various locations in the department.
The ring’s owner did not want her name mentioned, but she said she was “thrilled and relieved” and “forever grateful” to Ms. Smith.
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Selling Seized Firearms
August 23, 2009The Los Angeles Times www.latimes.com
By Nicholas Riccardi — nicholas.riccardi@latimes.com
Colorado Springs, CO
The City Council is considering a program to let the Police Department sell confiscated guns to licensed dealers. Sales could net $10,000 a year.
This conservative city is taking an unusual, some might say extreme, step to try to stem its fiscal woes: It’s entering the gun business.
The Colorado Springs City Council is expected in coming weeks to approve the final details of a program that would allow the Police Department to sell confiscated firearms to federally licensed gun dealers. Police have already stopped melting down the hundreds of guns they collect from crime scenes, drug houses or civilians who don’t need them anymore.
The sales are projected to bring in about $10,000 a year, only a slight dent for a city that faced a deficit of one-quarter its $200-million annual budget this year. But it still helps, said Vice Mayor Larry Small, who proposed the gun sales.
“Every penny counts,” Small said.
Colorado Springs is home to the Army’s Ft. Carson, the Air Force Academy and NORAD. Men and women in uniform mingle easily with civilians in the shopping centers and strollable downtown that sits in the shadow of 14,000-foot Pikes Peak. People here are comfortable around firearms.
But even in Colorado Springs, the idea of law enforcement as gun sellers has raised some eyebrows.
The Police Department objected, only to be overruled by the council, which in February voted 8 to 1 to direct the department to draw up the program it will consider this month. Lt. David Whitlock said the Police Department has been moving cautiously to address the many concerns the sales raise.
“There’s all kinds of ancillary issues, one of which is the politics of being in the gun-selling business,” Whitlock said. “The other is not introducing another weapon into the community.”
Jan Martin, the lone council member who voted against the sales, said the small amount of money they could bring in is outweighed by the risk that a gun sold by the city could one day be used for a crime.
“I remember what some of those weapons were used for,” Martin said. “Just the idea of putting those weapons back on the street is unconscionable.”
The International Assn. of Chiefs of Police cautions against law enforcement agencies selling weapons they have seized. Destroying the firearms, it says, is a better policy. No one tracks the number of agencies that make sales, but officials believe it to be very small.
Nonetheless, Scott Knight, who helped formulate the association’s policy on gun sales, said, “We understand, particularly in this economy, that some departments need to recoup budget losses.”
Knight’s police department, in Chaska, Minn., about 20 miles southwest of Minneapolis, is one such agency. The department upgraded its rifles recently and the only way to pay for the guns was to sell the old ones to licensed firearms dealers.
“I certainly was not willing to turn those over to the public,” Knight said.
In El Paso County, which includes Colorado Springs, Sheriff Terry Maketa’s agency has been selling confiscated firearms to licensed dealers since 2006. Spokeswoman Lt. Laurie Sevine noted that most weapons used in crimes are not for sale because they are kept as evidence, sometimes for decades.
Sevine stressed that licensed dealers can only sell to people who can legally own firearms. “We’re not selling to any civilian off the streets,” she said. “We’re very cautious as to how we go about this.”
The sheriff’s program, which has netted nearly $30,000 in two auctions, is what inspired Small to propose that Colorado Springs police start selling their seized weapons. He shrugged off complaints about guns possibly ending up on the streets, noting that police have long sold other assets seized from criminals.
“We auction off cars. It seems to me there’s not that much difference between a firearm and a vehicle,” Small said. “We’ve got a number of homes we’ve seized.… We don’t send a bulldozer over to them.”
Small said he thinks residents are comfortable with the idea because he’s gotten only a handful of e-mail complaints.
Colorado Springs, population 375,000, has always been more cosmopolitan and diverse than stereotypes of the mountainous West.
Yes, the evangelical group Focus on the Family has a sign on the interstate advertising the organization’s visitors center. One of the many commercial thoroughfares that wind through the subdivisions is called Corporate Drive. But the city’s core is full of vintage clothing shops, music stores and an old-fashioned movie theater that last week was showing “Food Inc.”
Nonetheless, several residents were rather blase about the possibility of their police selling guns.
“If it’s going to generate money for the Police Department or the city, that’s a good thing,” said Joe Nason, 28, a six-year Army veteran taking a break from working on a construction project downtown. “People can get weapons anyway. I don’t think [the sales] would have an effect on crime or more weapons.”
Ty Lewis, 43, a floor installer reclining in square-block Acacia Park, also had no worries. “I don’t think it’s that much of a risk,” he said. “Criminals are going to get their guns illegally.”
But Susan Jones, an elementary school teacher, had other ideas. “I’m totally against it,” she said. “I don’t want to have as many guns out there as there already are.”
Her husband, David, also a teacher, was pushing a pink stroller holding their 11-month-old daughter, Katelyn, while their 9-year-old son, Zach, walked along. He said he didn’t necessarily have a problem with the idea. But then he stopped and recalled how, when school districts were in dire need of cash, they allowed in soda and candy vending machines. Now the nation is in the midst of a child obesity epidemic.
“It’s got to be managed right,” he said, so the police don’t find themselves having to confiscate the guns another time.
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